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Author:  bob_connor [ Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:24 pm ]
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Does anyone use one of these Powerfiles?

It's basically a 13mm belt sander.

We bought one a few weeks ago when the Padauk neck
was proving to be particularly intransigent and chipping and tearing with chisels and spokeshaves.

With about 15 minutes work the neck and heel were basically finished apart from a hand sand

We figured it had paid for itself in one neck!!!
The cost over here about $95AUD(Pacific Pesos)

I did a quick archive search and couldn't find anything similar so I thought the info may be of use.



Cheers

Bob
Author:  Shawn [ Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:32 pm ]
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I have seen them but had not heard of anyone trying them...thanks for the post...it looks like a really clever tool for tight spots and I can see why it would be super for things like a neck, expecially the heel.
Author:  Kim [ Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:06 pm ]
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Cool Bob,

Good ol Aussie ingenuity

Cheers

Kim
Author:  Don Williams [ Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:23 pm ]
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I thought the expression was "Yankee Ingenuity"?

Looks like we all have a claim to that one, eh?
Author:  Kim [ Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:34 pm ]
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Yeah, well I thought of it first this time Don

Cheers

Kim
Author:  Don Williams [ Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:34 pm ]
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Author:  Billy T [ Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:54 pm ]
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   Aussies have ingenuity!

    One of'em stuck a big blob of grease inside the louver handle on the drawer of my bench! Stick your fingers in that and you'll realize just how ingenious it is!

   Very clever!   

   You know I've seen air grinders used in that configuration for auto body work, but I never really thought of using something like that on wood! I bet that would do it to it!
Author:  JJ Donohue [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:44 am ]
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Nice suggestion. I still think the ultimate weapon is the rotary chainsaw blade that Mario and I believe Sylvan use in their neck construction. It's called the Lancelot and it's very formidible and scary!!! See Mario's article in one of the recent issues of "Guitarmaker".

I use the belt sander as illustrated in John Mayes' DVD's as my main stock remover and then settle down to the rasp, spokeshave, file and sandpaper to finish it off.

Others go directly to the CNC but I feel that I would dearly miss the calming tactile effect of hand fashioning. Then again...I'm never in a hurry to build a guitar.
Author:  GD Armstrong [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:48 am ]
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I use an ArborTec Pro instead of the Lancelot for neck roughing out & shaping of plates on archtops. It's another bit of Aussie ingenuity - has three small carbide teeth that can be rotated when dull or replaced when needed. Much easier than sharpening a Lancelot and the small teeth keep it from grabbing the wood.
That belt sander looks like it will be a good companion for finishing up the rough surface left by the ArborTec.

GD
Author:  Anthony Z [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:18 am ]
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Another alternative to you "chainsaw" luthiers is using the angle grinder mounted Kutzall that Lee Valley sells -- a lot smoother cutting and less scary than using a Lancelot or ArborTec.

I'm with JJ -- I find you can rough shape a neck on a stationary belt sander fairly quickly (and a lot less scary than an angle grinder).
Author:  bob_connor [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:17 am ]
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[QUOTE=Billy T]    Aussies have ingenuity!

    One of'em stuck a big blob of grease inside the louver handle on the drawer of my bench! Stick your fingers in that and you'll realize just how ingenious it is!

   [/QUOTE]

He obviously didn't have access to Vegemite
Author:  Kim [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:54 am ]
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[QUOTE=bob_connor] [QUOTE=Billy T]    Aussies have ingenuity!

    One of'em stuck a big blob of grease inside the louver handle on the drawer of my bench! Stick your fingers in that and you'll realize just how ingenious it is!

   [/QUOTE]

He obviously didn't have access to Vegemite [/QUOTE]


Author:  Billy T [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:36 am ]
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[quote=bob_connor]He obviously didn't have access to Vegemite [/quote]

Geesh! It was a practical joke not an assassination!!!
Billy T39061.6929513889
Author:  paul harrell [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:59 pm ]
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What's with all the heavy weaponry? I'm happy with a sharp spokeshave.

                       Paul
Author:  K.O. [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:05 pm ]
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I like to wear out yard sale drills by using them with sanding disks for rough shaping jobs.
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